Swing Vote: Your beliefs are more in line with the Democratic Party. Do you have any concerns, a la Ralph Nader, you might siphon off some votes that would otherwise go to the Democratic candidate and in effect elect a Republican candidate?

Kinsey: First of all, Ralph Nader did not cause the defeat of Al Gore. Al Gore caused the defeat of Al Gore, and Al Gore gave in and didn't force the counting of votes in Florida -- he won Florida. He lost his own state but he still won Florida. Why don't people scream about Pat Buchanan who presumably took votes away from George Bush in Florida? That's a bogus issue. If our political system cannot develop a way candidates can stand for the for things that really need to be stood for and values that need to be maintained -- you can say some of the Democrats do, but when it comes to action, you don't get much from the Democrats than what you get from the Republicans. You get some but not a lot. We still have Guantanamo running -- all that kind of stuff that was part of the anger people has with the Bush administration has been appeased. Obama gets in and says we're thinking about the future, not the past. You have got to hold people accountable when they break the law. You have to hold people accountable when they commit American troops on the basis of lies. The Democratic Party hasn't had the spine to do that. It has to be done. People have to be held accountable. BP has to be held accountable for what they did in the Gulf -- when things go wrong and people are to blame and they didn't just make bad decisions or ill-informed decisions but made intentionally bad decisions based on lies. Dick Cheney was the biggest liar that ever came down the pike when it came to our involvement in Iraq and what Iraq was about. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and he knew damn well. He orchestrated that whole thing. Colin Powell even backed off some of the stuff he said at the UN but he still went ahead and gave the speech that convinced the world that we knew something that UN inspectors didn't. Now that it has been revealed and American blood has been spilled, those people should be accountable for war crimes. If you don't hold people accountable, you are really accepting those kinds of acts and behaviors on the part of our government -- Democrats or Republicans.

Swing Vote: You recently used the term 'disaffected progressives.' Do you think they really expected a lot when Obama was elected?

Kinsey: A lot of them had stars in their eyes. He was kind of like a preacher. They thought, 'This is nice, you know. Here comes Martin Luther King the second.' People caught on that he was backing off on the healthcare thing from the start. He said he was in favor of single-payer when he was running for the Senate in Illinois but as soon as he started running for president, he backed off of that.

Swing Vote: Is Obama to blame or is the system and the way system is set up to blame?

Kinsey: Structurally, it's the system. I've always thought Obama -- his heart is in the right place. I think he wants to do the right thing. The military industrial complex in this country has money flowing into every congressional district. Everybody wants to vote to get that money for their district -- the jobs. Look at the defense budget under Clinton, it was down to about 300 million dollars. Now it's up to over 550 billion dollars -- that's just the regular budget. You add the nuclear budget, the energy budget, the veterans' budget -- we're spending a trillion dollars a year on the military.